Shutting up a clueless Zionist.

Here’s a discussion with an American Jew who believes he knows everything about Israel because he visited relatives for 7 weeks:

Terrorist Attack Thwarted as IDF Seizes Anti-Tank Weapon
In another sign that the situation in Judea and Samaria is heating up, IDF troops on Monday arrested an Arab terrorist who was found to have in his possession a Carl Gustav recoilless rifle, a military-grade weapon used to take out tanks and armored vehicles. The 84 calibre automatic weapon has a range of up to 1,000 meters, and can utilize high explosive ammunition.

The weapon is far more sophisticated than those carried by the average terrorist. Amir Lazover, the commander of the unit that discovered the weapon, said that the terrorist was stopped at a checkpoint, where soldiers discovered the weapon. Large forces of troops were called in, as were members of the bomb squad.

There is no doubt, Lazover said, that the terrorist was on his way to conduct a major attack. “We were able to stop a terror attack,” he said, adding that the incident made clear that the terrorists were checking to see whether IDF soldiers were remaining attentive to the situation in Judea and Samaria.

Last week, US Secretary of State John Kerry “threatened” Israel with a new intifada if it did not agree to withdraw from most of Judea and Samaria, as the Palestinian Authority demands. In an interview withChannel 2 television, Kerry said that there would be “chaos” and a “third intifada” if Israel’s “peace talks” with the Palestinian Authority (PA) fail. “Failure of the talks will increase Israel’s isolation in the world,” Kerry said. “The alternative to getting back to the talks is a potential of chaos. I mean, does Israel want a third intifada?”

Israeli leaders slammed the comments, saying they amounted to incitement and warning such rhetoric could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Lazover said that, currently, there was no third intifada developing. “There has not been an increase in the number of security incidents in recent weeks, but the quality of these potential attacks have increased,” he said.

My initial response:

NOVEMBER 13, 2013 @ 6:12 PM
It appears to me that this above average Arab terrorist wasn’t too bright in trying to take such a weapon through a checkpoint. I’d put it to you that he was in fact set up by the IDF to allow extensive retribution to be inflicted on those who live in the vicinity of this ‘suspect’. Not that the IDF usually worry about acquiring such a reason to attack Palestinians. With regards Kerry threatening a 3rd intifada, the claim is a gross distortion of what he said and the context in which he said it. Some things never change.

His reply:

NOVEMBER 13, 2013 @ 6:25 PM
Yes your conspiracy theory is definitely way more reasonable and makes way more sense. Considering you know so much about how the IDF operates obviously. The IDF does not attack “Palestinians” the fact that you pose the comment as such shows your ignorance of the conflict. If the US was attacked by a terrorist we would try and stop them, why should israel not be allowed to do the same. How come no one says the US attacked pakistan when they went after Bin Ladin. I’m not going to say that “Palestinians” aren’t treated differently than Jews in Israel. That being said they’re treated better in Israel than by any other country in the middle east. Why would they live in Israel otherwise?

Thank you so much for your comment. I really appreciate you showing how the media has turned terrorists into martyrs and victims and is causing people to turn on Israel. Thank you for proving my point that my blog is necessary. Next time you make an argument though back it up with facts, not conspiracy bs.

I’m not so hung up on Kerry’s comments as much as his obvious bias towards the Palestinians. Because of him Israel to released known murderers and convicts. These aren’t non-violent offenders that you think the IDF just rounds up and throws in jail because they feel like it. I would like to know if you have ever actually studied this issue or are just making ignorant comments. Have you been to Israel? Have you asked a Palestinian what they think of Israel when compared to living in ANY other Arab country in the middle east? Study the topic and then come back to me with an argument that uses a factual basis not one that is based in what, for some reason with no evidence, you choose to believe about the IDF.

My reply:

NOVEMBER 14, 2013 @ 9:45 AM
Your reply was extremely rude and unjustified. In my response to your post I did not insult or slur you personally, yet you responded by calling me an ignorant, bullshitting apologist for terrorists. So let me go through the points you claim are the real facts.

1, The IDF does not attack Palestinians.

The IDF attack , shoot and sometimes kill unarmed Palestinians on a daily basis for further evidence I’ll refer you to

2, US attack on Bin Laden.

The US were indeed accused of a total disregard for Pakistan sovereignty and are accused daily over the drone attacks on the same country. The simple truth is that Pakistan can do nothing about it, just like the Palestinians.

3. Palestinians treated fairly.

If you are referring to Israeli Arabs, there are over 60 racist laws aimed specifically towards Arabs, mainly building and property restrictions. Arab politicians in the West Bank and Gaza are seized or assassinated at will and the Israeli’s control almost every aspect of their lives …Travel, water, electricity supply, etc.

4, Terrorists into Martyrs.

I claimed Martyrdom for no-one and only approve violence in self defence. Israeli targeted assassinations are not a legitimate act so I would approve a response by Palestinians to them. I would also urge Palestinians to avoid Israeli civilian deaths but it is very difficult when Israel shows such total disregard for Palestinian civilian lives.

5, ‘Kerry’s comments as much as his obvious bias towards the Palestinians. Because of him Israel to released known murderers and convicts.’

You can research any independent reports concerning the Arab/Israeli conflict and you will not find any supported claims from an unbiased observer that the US has ever favoured Palestinians over Israelis. A quick look at the history of Israel related UN resolutions will support my claim. The release of prisoners was a deal done with the PA so that Israel could announce yet more settlement building without reproach.

As you can see by my last sentence, I’m not a supporter of the PA and neither do I support Hamas. I have no connection to Palestine whatsoever and the same goes for Israel. Before researching the conflict, I actually believed the Palestinians were at fault but it soon became obvious that the worldwide media leaned heavily in favour of Israel and public opinion was very strongly swayed by this.
A poll taken during operation Cast Lead discovered that over 90% of Israelis supported the slaughter of Palestinians and some Israelis were even seen having picnics from vantage points to see the murderous attack more clearly. Any society that approves such a one sided attack that would undoubtedly kill many civilians has something wrong with it. Finally, I condemn violence from either side but because of it’s far more regular use of force, I ultimately end up criticising Israel.

He didn’t reply to this one.


One thought on “Shutting up a clueless Zionist.

  1. been watching a set of videos for danny ayalon lately,,,,,,donno if u’v heard of him “titled the truth about israel”
    they draw the “ISRAELI” version of the state creation and other matters concerning the conflict!
    its total mockery aimed 2ward history, its facts and documents,
    and as 1 palestinian politician said about them “falsified account of history and international law”
    he promotes the ideas, and advertise 4 them! brain-washing mission, cleaning out their image and most importantly drawing sympathy!
    history is being re-written and forged by the victors,,,,,thus its far from over 4 them 2 be that!

    and this is a clip from a tv show,,,responding 2 some of his crap


    i bet u already know about him and all that!!!!!! like i’m not telling u something new :d~ u know 2oo 2oo much!

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